Asset Management
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Schroders Private Banking Drills Deep To Find Value

It is tough to find a positive regional economic “good news” story right now and any gems resting in the rubble are most likely to be unearthed at the company level, argues Schroders Private Banking.
It
is tough to find a positive regional economic “good news” story
right now and
any gems resting in the rubble are most likely to be unearthed at
the company
level, argues Schroders Private Banking.
The
US economic position, while
showing some improvements, could still spring nasty surprises;
China’s once
red-hot economy is looking far less perky and the eurozone’s
travails just won’t
go away. So making money requires investors to drill a lot deeper
to discover
value, argues
Robert Farago, head of asset allocation at the firm, part
of
UK-listed Schroders.
“In terms of how we approach
equities, we have not taken big regional bets; it is more
stock-specific. We
are favouring high-quality companies; companies that are able to
generate
dividends. The quality and dividend theme has been very
successful. The concern
is that have valuations gone up too far?” Farago told this
publication in a
recent interview at the firm’s offices in Wood Street, London.
“In terms of pure
sustainability [by firms], things look a bit expensive [in
quality firms]. It
is still possible to get some firms for decent value, though,”
Farago said.
In
such an environment where there is no “easy” macro-economic theme
to play on as
in the past. The graft of searching for overlooked corporate gems
becomes ever
more significant, a fact that arguably highlights the positive
case for active
fund management as opposed to adopting a more purely “passive”
stance.
The
argument between the “passive versus active” schools of fund
management is,
probably never going to be resolved, and is arguably a falsely
stark choice in
the first place. But it is certainly the case that an outfit such
as Schroders
Private Banking believes it can prove its worth to clients when
it is so hard
to read the economic signs, as now.
The
private banking arm of Schroders may not be the largest in terms
of assets
under management (£16 billion (around $25.4 billion0 at the end
of June), but Schroders is one of the
more voluble houses on economic affairs. (In total, Schroders has
around £194
billion of client assets under management.) The end-June AuM
figure of £16 million was unchanged from the end of December last
year, suggesting that the bank has, in a difficult market
environment, at least managed to hold client money at a steady
level, although it will want to do better than that for client
wealth to withstand inflation.
Farago,
who has been at the blue-blooded firm since 1994, is also fund
manager of the
Schroder Managed Wealth Portfolio, a multi-asset unit trust. His
investment
career started in the post-Big Bang financial era, joining
Bankers Trust in
1987. At Schroders, Farago has worked as a senior Pacific
Basin
fund manager, a member of the global equity team, and
alternatives analyst for
the multi-asset team.
Not so keen on China
China
has been the investor’s darling for so long that it still almost
comes as a
shock to hear a more cautious approach. Farago explains
“I
am not positive on China,
so the positive points… are simply illustrative that we will
probably avoid a
hard landing, not that I am hugely bullish. For now, the economic
data is
pointing down (as is the stock market),” he said.
“Data has clearly showed
that the economy has slowed and the economy, so concerns remain
on the table.
You are still seeing inconsistencies in data that makes people
think that
things might be worse than is suggested in the official figures,”
he said.
But some of the signs point
against a sharp crunch, he said: “China is one place where we
have
had some evidence that things look like they are turning and not
getting worse.
M2 money supply growth is picking up. Property sales volumes have
picked up as
well.”
It is easy to see why China’s markets
make some experienced investors queasy. Farago explained that
China’s massive
construction boom has triggered fears about heavy mal-investments
that, sooner
or later, will have to be unwound. For example, construction
makes up 12 per
cent of Chinese GDP. In Japan,
just prior to its property bust of early 90s, it accounted for 10
per cent of
GDP.
Schroders’ Asia-Pacific managers are
taking a cautious approach to China
exposure, he said.
Uncle Sam
The
recent second-quarter earning season in the US has been a mixed
bag, with some
less-than-stellar results to remind investors that the world’s
largest economy
has a long road to travel before regaining its old lustre.
“There
were some revenue disappointments [from companies in their Q2
results] that
were a concern to us. We think there is room for earnings
disappointment there,”
said Farago.
Macro-economic
data in the US remains a
concern – and highly relevant as the US Presidential elections
approach.
For example, just over a week ago, figures showed an unexpected
rise in initial
jobless claims in the week that ended on 18 August, for example.
On
the corporate side, while there are still strong firms with
robust earnings to
choose from, valuations are getting stretched somewhat, said
Farago.
“The
concern is that have valuations for high quality, dividend-paying
companies gone
up too far? In terms of pure sustainability, things look a bit
expensive.
However, it is still possible to find companies with strong
balance sheets and
generating strong profits at attractive valuations.”
Gold and inflation
Along
with some other wealth management firms, such as the UK’s
Kleinwort Benson, or the
private bank of HSBC, Schroders Private Banking has been a fan of
gold,
although in the case of the latter firm, it has decided to
retreat slightly for
the moment.
“Gold
is something we have invested in for some time. We took some
profits earlier
this year. It had become too expensive to be a reliable hedge for
inflation,”
he said. (Gold traded around $1,690 per ounce today, as of the
time of writing;
it is some way from its record high above $1,917 an ounce.)
Any
talk about gold raises the issue of inflation, an issue that,
despite concerns
about sluggish economic growth and even a protracted recession in
some
countries, is a worry for anyone protecting real wealth.
In
fact, even the debate about whether passive investing is the way
forward
touches on inflation, because Farago argues that in passive
investments, it is
not always clear to a manager what the relevant benchmark should
be.
“For
an individual, the real benchmark is but that is not something
you can buy a
passive product to replicate,” he said.
Eurozone
Farago
is concerned, like his peers, about the risks of a eurozone
crack-up.
“Whereas two years ago the odds of a currency breakup
were zero, now they are quite real. That [euro collapse] would
trigger a global
recession and be disastrous for European companies,” e said.
In peripheral European markets,
Schroders is cautious, taking the view that if the euro
remains, it will come at the expense of years of low-growth and
austerity.
Banks, meanwhile, “look like bad bets” with their opaque balance
sheets and
exposures to European bad debts. There are good quality European
firms earning
revenues from around the world; compared with global peers, they
look
relatively cheap, he said.
And finally, there is
Schroders’ home turf: the UK.
Farago said there is little point discussing the national
economic story when
considering investing in UK-registered firms, since the UK and
its
companies were so influenced by global factors that a national
perspective made
little sense.